11-07-2023 05:39 PM
11-07-2023 05:39 PM
A thought I had during this convo was needing support can put us in a place where we can’t be assertive, but then realised that we can still communicate our side and place a boundary if others are not accepting it.
I think my original comment was due to something like this: if it’s nice to have support I might maintain a relationship even though their presence distressed at times, where as before I experienced severe mental health issues, I could have been more independent. So I feel like being sick placed me in a place where I can’t put a boundary.
thoughts?
12-07-2023 11:55 AM
12-07-2023 11:55 AM
Oooh @Former-Member this is a really good point and I'm glad you've brought it back for further discussion here 😊
Assertiveness and setting boundaries can be really tricky when it comes to needing help and support. I'm not sure I necessarily know what the answer is- it's likely different for everyone and also depending on the situation, but I feel like 'I' statements are likely to be super helpful, whatever the specific scenario. There might be a few possibilities in the kinds of specific situations you've described, like having a conversation to establish boundaries before you're in a position of needing support (where possible) so the expectations and boundaries are already understood, or maybe seeking to have a conversation in the moment when something arises (or as soon after as possible). Something I've found helpful for myself in similar situations is having an idea of a preferable alternative I can suggest. For example, in the context of receiving support, outlining what support I find helpful (I also talk about what I find unhelpful on occasion too) and sometimes, why it’s helpful/ unhelpful or otherwise preferable for me.
I feel like something important to remember in these kinds of scenarios as well is that it is your support, so it needs to work for you. if it's not for whatever reason, it's OK, and important to speak up and seek to change things. that's just my thoughts, but I'm interested to hear the perspectives of others as well! @tonys @Appleblossom @TAB What do y'all think?
12-07-2023 05:21 PM
12-07-2023 05:21 PM
I think it is a huge question @TideisTurning
Thanks @Former-Member for unpacking it a bit more.
I am not good in setting boundaries even though I have done lot of work in last 7 years to research it and get better at it. It seems to have a lot to do with the AMOUNT of RESOURCES people have ... whether financial and social ... marginalised people are most likely to have less of both.
Sturggling with it a lot at moment ... as I am too used to accepting a lot of put downs and dissmissive comments and not good at articulating my needs ... in a way .. people can understand ... think I will use ... what I find unhelpful ... in upcoming car trip this weekend ... hmmm ... thanks for tag @TideisTurning
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